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MissCKC
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| Does anyone know any good links to some kind of online CBT course or something. Or can anyone can tell me if they have done this before and whether or not this has helped. Any info on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! |
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ptncud
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MissCKC
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you soo much for that. I really do appreciate it!  |
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Beachgirl
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| Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Join a group if you or get the book by Sam Obitz and start doing the TEA form exercise everyday and you will soon be amazed at how much relief you can give yourself. CBT is the best thing that I have ever done for myself. |
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Robbed
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| Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 1:44 am Post subject: |
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| Beachgirl wrote: | | Join a group if you or get the book by Sam Obitz and start doing the TEA form exercise everyday and you will soon be amazed at how much relief you can give yourself. CBT is the best thing that I have ever done for myself. |
I guess I have to say that you have to think somewhat before using TEA forms. TEA forms can be a REALLY good thing if you are a worrier. But contrary to popular belief, not all anxiety sufferers are worriers. MANY anxiety sufferers tend to suffer more from symptoms of stress than actual worry as such. If your symptoms tend more toward free-floating anxiety and obsessions, TEA forms can be a REALLY bad thing. For this type of anxiety, ACCEPTANCE is key. |
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Beachgirl
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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| I think I see what you are saying Robbed and that seems like a really good point about acceptance. What I don't understand is how TEA forms could hurt you? Really all they do is get you out of your head and force you to be realistic in your thinking and help you learn to live in the moment . Maybe i am still too new at this but how could thinking realistically hurt you? Thanks |
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Beachgirl
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Robbed
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:14 am Post subject: |
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| Beachgirl wrote: | | What I don't understand is how TEA forms could hurt you? |
Just to make sure I have things straight, TEA forms are forms where yu try to track your thoughts when you feel anxiety and/or depression, and then come up with alternative, more realistic thoughts. Right? If so, this can be quite problematic under certain circumstances. The problem is that when you have an anxiety disorder, it is VERY common to experience 'free-floating' anxiety, as well as alot of other strange and uncomfortable symptoms out of the blue, and for no good reason. If you are big into TEA forms, this is going to cause you to try to track down a negative thought which could have led to these uncmfortable symptoms. Of course, you CAN'T track down something that you didn't experience! This is going to cause all kinds of stress for the typical anxiety sufferer who is going to feel like they MUST find the thought in order to overcome their anxiety. This can also cause people to blame thoughts that they had at the time which are probably not responsible (ie thoughts like 'I'm going to get a glass of water'). Furthermore, it can make people think that something is REALLY wrong with them, since negative feelings appeared without provoking thoughts. For all of these reasons, I believe that you need to be a little careful with TEA forms. ANd in situations like these, ACCEPTANCE is a better recovery tool than TEA forms. Yes, TEA forms have their place in anxiety recovery. But they should by NO MEANS be your ONLY recovery tool. Indeed, for SOME anxiety sufferers, they should be used sparingly. |
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The Melody of Rain
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trackstar
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| Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:31 am Post subject: |
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| Cbt is awesome. I just finished my group and never imagined I could make this kind of progress in just 16-weeks. We used the TEA forms and they are really great for helping you learn to get out of your head and live in the moment. TEA stands for Thought-Error-Analysis Melody. |
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Suzanne
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| Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:36 am Post subject: CBT |
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The most popular book for CBT is called "Mind over Mood". There is also a work book you can get to go along with it. It also covers something they call "thought reports" where you try to pinpoint the "hot thought" that causes your anxiety to escalate.
I am working with a private company through my insurance company (I am on disability) and all they use is this book. It is considered the bible of CBT.
They also use exposure therapy which has helped me ton's. Baby step's at first but the results will come.
Hope that is useful. You can pick the book up at any bookstore.
Stay positive,
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Beachgirl
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Hey Robbed thanks for getting back to me. You have the TEA forms right I'm no authority but what we learned was that even the free floating anxiety is caused by what are known as automatic thoughts which are thoughts that you may not even be aware you are having. Automatic thoughts are outlined really well in the book Feeling Good by David Burns if you want to read more about them and how they can cause free floating anxiety. I'm not arguing, I'm just sharing what I learned on this subject, and I do agree that acceptance is an integral part of getting better. Keep in touch  |
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Robbed
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| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:00 am Post subject: |
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| Beachgirl wrote: | | Hey Robbed thanks for getting back to me. You have the TEA forms right I'm no authority but what we learned was that even the free floating anxiety is caused by what are known as automatic thoughts which are thoughts that you may not even be aware you are having. Automatic thoughts are outlined really well in the book Feeling Good by David Burns if you want to read more about them and how they can cause free floating anxiety. I'm not arguing, I'm just sharing what I learned on this subject, and I do agree that acceptance is an integral part of getting better. Keep in touch |
Since there is no way to determine whether or not these sorts of thoughts exist, it is impossible to prove that they either do or don't. I personally don't think that they do. And I believe that the whole idea of them is just a way for therapists who believe that anxiety symptoms are ALWAYS caused by negative thoughts to explain that which cannot be explained. The way I see it, free-floating anxiety is just part of the anxiety state. Simply put, the anxiety state is somewhat random and erratic in nature. And this is one reason why a given thought may cause you to feel anxious at one moment, but not at another. In any case, even if it is certain 'cryptic thoughts' that cause free-floating anxiety, it is pointless to use TEA forms, since you don't know what they are in the first place AND there is no way of finding out. |
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Beachgirl
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I felt the same way when I first learned about CBT. My thoughts are fine and I don't have any automatic thoughts that are causing my problem. Well it turns out I was wrong and you can learn to catch them and eliminate them. I was suffering to the point I was hiding and withdrawing from everyone and everything in my life and now I no longer have to take meds and I am enjoying my life more than ever.
I'm not saying it is the only way to get better but I do think CBT and TEA forms are underutilized and wish someone had mentioned their existence to me long before so I could have possibly avoided a lot of the suffering and trials and tribulations I went through.
I'm not an expert and can only share what I have seen. In my group I did not see anyone harmed by the use of TEA forms, but I did see people make 180 degree changes for the better and how can you not want to share something that you have seen help so many people so dramatically where everything else failed?
In essence what the TEA form does is help you retrain your brain to learn to live in the present and since most anxiety is about what happens next or in the future if you can get out of your head and back into living your life the anxiety disappears.
Again I am not saying it is for everyone but I am saying I see no harm in trying it and think the odds are great it will help you more than you can imagine if you work hard at it. |
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| Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:37 am Post subject: ??? |
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What is CBT?
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